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Ollie439
05-02-2007, 04:05 PM
States rights! states rights! states rights! bunch of horse **** that it, states right to hold slaves is all that ******** is.

THE5ASPECTS
02-14-2008, 08:07 PM
"Licoln was correct from his perspective"

Well yeah I guess so. Same could be said of Hitler and Stalin too.
true... Lincoln did have absolutely no reason for the war other than "Fort Sumter" which was not even the first actual battle, TECHNICALLY.

luis.manzano001
04-02-2009, 11:12 PM
The Nullification Crisis is the best reference to understand why South Carolina wrecked the most valuable legacy of this country:The Constitution. Their blind pursuit of ecomic interests and the lack of vision for the future, almost destroyed this nation.

JoelHenderson
06-04-2009, 11:39 PM
Morrill Tariff and the Radical Republican (Whig) platform of Clay and Lincoln.

Remember we seceeded from Great Britain, primarily over British Mercantilism.

The South was seceeding from Northern or American Mercantilism. The same Mercantilistic system that still plagues our nation today.

The Republicans were also plotting openly to overturn Supreme Court rulings, in Lincoln's 1858 "House Divided" speech. And Lincoln likewise did overturn all such rulings in his First Inaugural Address, claiming that the Supreme Court had no power other than in individual cases that came before it-- not any precedents for later cases! This effectively mounted a coup that overturned the entire history of legal jurisprudence in the American system of justice, i.e. that case-law set a binding precedent for all lower courts-- and likewise habeas corpus, i.e. that a person cannot be arrested for laws that are ruled invalid by the court.

Lincoln defended this usurpation by arguing that "if the policy of the Government upon vital questions affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court, the instant they are made in ordinary litigation between parties in personal actions the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned their Government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."
However, here he appointed himself and (the Republican) Congress as speaking for "the people--" while likewise claiming to be the voice of Constitutional limitations on them.
In short, the Republicans usurped everything short of the elective process itself-- and even that was compromised by their suspension of Habeas Corpus, including the censorship via imprisonment without trial of over 20,000 journalist and closing of 300 opposition-presses-- and the intimidation of countless others; in short, neither elections nor speech were "free" under Republican rule (any more than under other despots claiming to be "democratically elected," but who won through intimidation and/or worse of anyone caught speaking or voting against the reigning tyrant). Even those who failed to praise Lincoln loudly enough, were often imprisoned without trial-- and often tortured as well.

Likewise, "war" was not an acceptable excuse for such-- but was merely an incentive for the despotic regime to declare war in order to claim such.

Once the Republicans won the war and attained their long-sought empire, the 1866 Supreme Court immediately declared the Republican suspensions of habeas corpus to be wholly illegal-- but this was fully 5 years too late, since the empire had been achieved, and state sovereignty wholly decimated beyond recall to date.

dvrmte
07-19-2009, 06:43 AM
south carolina was tired of footing the bill for the norths industrialization. taxes and tariffs paid for there railroads, bridges, canals, etc. south carolina didn't need these things as the rivers flow west to east toward the major ports. we also didn't like the yankee accent because it hurt our ears. when they visited south carolina we had to wear rubber boots to wade through all the bull@#it they spouted forth. who would want to stay with a bunch of losers like that?

tineak99
10-09-2009, 05:09 PM
South Carolina made their reasons abundantly clear:

http://americancivilwar.com/documents/causes_south_carolina.html

"For twenty-five years this agitation has been steadily increasing, until it has now secured to its aid the power of the common Government. Observing the forms of the Constitution, a sectional party has found within that Article establishing the Executive Department, the means of subverting the Constitution itself. A geographical line has been drawn across the Union, and all the States north of that line have united in the election of a man to the high office of President of the United States, whose opinions and purposes are hostile to slavery. He is to be entrusted with the administration of the common Government, because he has declared that that "Government cannot endure permanently half slave, half free," and that the public mind must rest in the belief that slavery is in the course of ultimate extinction."