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mizzoureb
02-16-2007, 11:51 PM
For the first three years of the war, President Abraham Lincoln could not settle on a general to lead his troops in the field. He first offered overall command of the Union forces to Robert E. Lee.
But, Lee (rather graciously) refused when Virginia decided to allign herself with the Confederacy. After that Lincoln tried a number of alternatives, but none seemed to work. Among them were: Irwin McDowell, George B. McClellan (twice), Henry Halleck, John Pope, Ambrose Burnside, "Fighting Joe" Hooker, George Gordon Meade (although he did continue as commander of the ARMY OF THE POTOMAC for the remainder of the war). Finally, he decided on a hard drinking Ohio native who wasn't even on any active military rolls when the war started. He was working as a clerk in his father's tannery in Galena, Illinois. His name? Ulysses S. Grant. it seemed that everything Grant tried in peacetime - farmer, real estate, etc. - ended in disaster. The only thing he seemed to be good at was soldiering. To back that up, he was winning some key battles in the Western Theater of the war and seemed to be the only general that was getting the results in the field that Lincoln wanted. When asked why he chose grant, Lincoln's reply was simply, "He makes things git." Lincoln's appointment drew harsh criticism because of Grant's drinking. Lincoln's reply to that was, "You tell me what brand of whiskey he drinks and I will order every one of my generals in the field a barrell of it."

ban-one
02-17-2007, 12:02 AM
grant was a slave owner it wasent till the 13th amenment that he did not own slaves I do not have any reason why lincoln pick him other than there was no one else

charge_of_glory
02-17-2007, 01:47 PM
Grant's wife's family owned slaves. Any he owned were given to him. He did't like the idea of slavery and I believe he paid them for their work.

miltpoly
02-25-2007, 07:28 AM
This man can fight! He was the only gen left no one could beat lee, his plan was to keep after lee no retreat. Abe seen this in him thats why he picked him.At the wilderness Grant kept moving south, when the others had retreated. Even lee know 'if he gets to the south of the James river, it will become a sige then its only a matter of time.Grant knew thats the only way to win. He wasnt going to beat lee and he knew it.

Lawrence63
07-26-2007, 07:06 PM
Lincoln chose Grant because unlike the previous generals, especially McClellan, Grant understood that capturing Richmond would only go so far, and that his objective was to destroy LEE. If Richmond was captured, the Confederate government would just move to another city. Richmond was really just another piece of real estate. Even if Grant DID capture Richmond, Lee's army would still be out there. Grant knew that the best way to defeat Lee was to grind at the Army of Northern Virginia bit by bit until Lee surrendered. In the end, it looks like Lincoln made the right choice.

THE5ASPECTS
02-07-2008, 05:56 PM
For the first three years of the war, President Abraham Lincoln could not settle on a general to lead his troops in the field. He first offered overall command of the Union forces to Robert E. Lee.
But, Lee (rather graciously) refused when Virginia decided to allign herself with the Confederacy. After that Lincoln tried a number of alternatives, but none seemed to work. Among them were: Irwin McDowell, George B. McClellan (twice), Henry Halleck, John Pope, Ambrose Burnside, "Fighting Joe" Hooker, George Gordon Meade (although he did continue as commander of the ARMY OF THE POTOMAC for the remainder of the war). Finally, he decided on a hard drinking Ohio native who wasn't even on any active military rolls when the war started. He was working as a clerk in his father's tannery in Galena, Illinois. His name? Ulysses S. Grant. it seemed that everything Grant tried in peacetime - farmer, real estate, etc. - ended in disaster. The only thing he seemed to be good at was soldiering. To back that up, he was winning some key battles in the Western Theater of the war and seemed to be the only general that was getting the results in the field that Lincoln wanted. When asked why he chose grant, Lincoln's reply was simply, "He makes things git." Lincoln's appointment drew harsh criticism because of Grant's drinking. Lincoln's reply to that was, "You tell me what brand of whiskey he drinks and I will order every one of my generals in the field a barrell of it."

The reason Lee disagreed was he felt ties to his homeland. If he hadn't, Lee would have routed himself. Kinda an interesting concept! Grant was the only one left, i'm assuming.

bmac6446
04-10-2008, 06:28 PM
Lincoln chose Grant because he handed him the impenetrable Vicksburg and opened up the Mississippi River.
The only General at the time that gave results.

04-12-2008, 01:53 PM
I agree with Lawrence63 that Grant was chosen because he understood what Lincoln wanted, and what was necessary for victory. He gave results too eg Vicksburg. However, I don't believe that there was no one else. Sherman, Sheridan, Thomas or even McPherson could have done the job.

snick653
12-27-2008, 02:07 PM
It really is neither fair nor accurate to say that Lincoln chose Grant because he was the only general left. As earlier mentioned, there were many other possibilities of who could have became the overall commander. The simple fact was that Grant was the only Federal general, Eastern theater or Western theater, who had a consistent record of winning. In the west, he forced two Confederate armies to surrender to him, first at Fort Donelson and then at Vicksburg. He also turned defeat into victory at Shiloh and Chattanooga by his simple refusal to give up. In the Eastern theater, Grant has been unfairly maligned as a butcher for his so called war of attrition against Lee's army. The historical fact is that if Sigel and Butler had done the jobs they were assigned by Grant to do, the Overland Campaign would have been much different and would have probably led to a shorter war and to much less loss of life.

kepgeek
03-27-2009, 01:11 PM
Grant would fight.

m44
04-12-2009, 07:14 AM
Because grant was a brilliant general, the man could fight and win. Not only that but he respected Lee at the surrender they talked for quite a while before they even mentioned surrender.